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"me too. I really want to go further back in time. And, although I have some power consumption numbers from further back, I don't have access to the BEST power consumption numbers. I am not sure that people really kept those sorts of stats back then. Power wasn't really the issue of consideration back then. 

If anyone has access to better data, then by all means, let me know. "
James Carroll
"James - another very interesting chart,  with a long, historical perspective. It will be very interesting to see what comes from Henry Markram's Human Brain Project in the next few years."
J Brew
"James - an interesting chart, I wonder what the longer term trend is? I believe you are correct about the cost of power, that is also why Google server farms are located near cheap sources of electricity."
J Brew
"More data like this is available here: http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-computing-trend-that-will-change-everything?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=b0c3dd0f7e-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email"
James Carroll
"very very interesting thanks! I think that there is little doubt that we will see a systematic flattening of the improvement rate for magnetic storage hdd's by 2020 at the latest.

But I am far less certain that SDD costs will flatten too by the same time. I think that their improvement rates will continue for some considerably longer time (just a guess though).

If I am right, all that means is that SDD and HDD price points cross sooner than my graph projects. Since I was already projecting that SDDs would eventually dominate, this shouldn't much affect the long term trend in price/tb. But it will be very interesting to see what really happens."
James Carroll
"+James Carroll there's an important discussion of Kryder's Law here: http://blog.dshr.org/2012/02/talk-at-pda2012.html"
James Salsman
"I will get back to this after Christmas break. If you find anything substantial before then, let me know."
James Carroll
"I would love to find more detailed data. If you find some let me know. I will look too. That would be nice."
James Carroll
"There are actually standards: tpc.org/tpce is for OLTP and tpc.org/tpch is for OLAP. Somewhere in the PDF files on the right hand side of the those pages should be an I/O bandwidth summary. Maybe seek and transfer time response is in there, too, but it's probably in the results -- or worse, papers about such results. I've read all about cache response for TPC-E somewhere. I guess to do it right you would figure the premium per benchmark score difference, and use that to denominate the costs. The result should be that solid state seek (~0) and transfer (+orders of magnitude) will be vastly more important to OLTP, but the benchmark premiums should be substantial enough even for OLAP applications to become more economical with solid state much sooner.

Let me know if you can't find the figures needed and I will help. I'm very interested in this."
James Salsman
"Well, I love this graph a lot, but the x-axis is too wide. Does that link give you enough to make one from, say, 1500 to present?"
James Salsman
"Looks to me like they are still going up everywhere according to the article you linked to, just slower in the US. But as a futurist, I am not US centric. If the US falls behind, progress will continue somewhere else. I would love to see it happen in the US, but I am most interested in insuring that it happen.

If the problem is obesity as the article claims, we may have a solution for that coming down the pipeline (a cure for obesity isn't impossible). And Americans who care can do something about it now (exercise and diet). If its something else, we will have to see what can be done. But what we know now is that activity is the single most important predictor of life expectancy and health. For now, until the cure comes, it's time to get off the couch and get busy.

In any event, the future will happen, somewhere."
James Carroll
"If you can figure out a typical utility/value for space and speed for each application, I can do that. :-) The question is, how do you define "typical"?"
James Carroll
James Salsman
"And even if the end of Moore's Law were such a limitation, we will have already passed the threshold that would lead to full brain simulation before then, assuming a synapse level simulation is sufficient, (which seems likely). In other words, the end of Moore's Law will come too late to pose any real threat to the creation of machines with truly human levels of intelligence."
James Carroll
"Moore's law may well hit the quantum limits sometime around 2020-2025, but it should be pointed out that this limit is not a fundamental limit to super computer performance, (the brain serves as an existence proof that it is possible to do about 10^19cps on just 20 watts of power in a very small space)."
James Carroll
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